Clinical Learning, Reimagined - the Podcast
This is a podcast for health professions educators who believe that clinical learning is a worthy passion — and worth reimagining.
Each episode, Aquifer Founder and CEO Leslie Fall, MD, sits down with a visionary educator, researcher, or innovator who is doing exactly that: seeing a need and finding the courage to fill it — asking hard questions, testing bold ideas, and building something better in the middle of some of the most disruptive times our field has ever seen. These are educators who are willing to stretch, take risks, and create something of genuine value for their learners and colleagues...
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(Part 2) Rethinking Assessment of Clinical Competence in the Age of AI
Why did it take so long for medical education to prioritize direct observation of patient care? In Part 2, host Leslie Fall, MD continues her conversation with Eric Holmboe, MD, CEO of Intealth, on the history of clinical assessment, what 25 years of competency-based education has achieved, and what programs still need to do with the data they collect. Dr. Holmboe shares practical ideas for flexibility in training, the promise of mastery-based learning, and how AI may reshape competence, closing with what he would do differently: co-produce the work with learners, patients, and other professions. If you missed it, make sure to go back and listen to part 1. Full show notes can be found here: https://aquifer.org/hubfs/CLR%20Show%20Notes%20-%20Eric%20Holmboe%20Part%202.pdf(Part 1) Rethinking Assessment of Clinical Competence in the Age of AI
What has competency-based assessment given us, and where does it still fall short? In this episode, host Leslie Fall, MD talks with Eric Holmboe, MD, CEO of Intealth and a leading force behind the ACGME’s Competency Milestones, about 25 years of work to change how we assess clinical learners. Dr. Holmboe shares his path from the Navy and a clerkship directorship into assessment, explains the quality and safety concerns that drove the six general competencies, and describes the decision to launch the milestones before they were perfect and learn along the way. He also reflects on the limits of any framework, the “whitespace” educators must fill themselves, and his current work at Intealth on global work-based assessment and the question of what readiness means for international medical graduates. Be on the lookout for Part 2 of this episode coming soon! Full show notes available here: https://aquifer.org/hubfs/CLR%20Show%20Notes%20-%20Eric%20Holmboe%20Part%201.pdf(Part 2) Breaking Down Silos in Interprofessional Education
In Part 2 of the episode, Dr. Leslie Fall and Amy Blue explore what makes interprofessional education truly meaningful, from ill-defined, patient-centered team challenges to surprising lessons from veterinary medicine and the One Health perspective. They also tackle persistent barriers like curricular time, the idea of AI as a future team member, and how learning together from day one could build lasting trust across the health professions. Full show notes available here: https://aquifer.org/hubfs/CLR%20Show%20Notes%20-%20Amy%20Blue%20Part%202.pdf(Part 1) Breaking Down Silos in Interprofessional Education
What does interprofessional education actually mean, and why does it matter more than ever? In this episode, host Leslie Fall, MD talks with Amy Blue, PhD, Associate Vice President for Interprofessional Education at the University of Florida Health, about what it really takes to teach health professions students to collaborate. Dr. Blue, who came to this work as a medical anthropologist rather than a clinician, breaks down the globally recognized definition of IPE (learning about, from, and with other professions) and explains why true interprofessional learning requires intentional interaction, not just students from different disciplines sharing a room. The conversation covers the origins of the Core Competencies for Interprofessional Collaborative Practice, the ongoing challenge of assessing team-based skills, and why role modeling and psychological safety matter as much as formal curriculum in teaching students to work as a team. Full show notes available here: https://aquifer.org/hubfs/CLR%20Show%20Notes%20-%20Amy%20Blue%20Part%201.pdf